a voice for curiosity in education

Tony Wagner.

Education Researcher · Author · Former Harvard Innovation Lab

Tony has argued for over two decades that curiosity is the most important thing schools can nurture — and the thing they most reliably crush. Since 2014, he has been a voice for what reweave is building.

a reweave believer since 2014, when we were still called Better World Ed

Tony Wagner on curiosity as a muscle · 3:44

in his own words
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The average five-year-old asks a hundred questions a day. But then something happens — we call it school. Curiosity just kind of withers as kids get older with more experience in school.

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You're giving curiosity new life. And that curiosity becomes a kind of springboard for having a reason to want to read and write and use math. You're giving them a context to apply literacy and numeracy.

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We don't work enough on real-world applications of skills. Always for the test. As opposed to: tell me what you learned about that culture. What made you curious? That math problem — can you think of something in your own life that's similar?

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Because wordless videos give kids — all kids — access at the same time, in the same way. There is no preferential treatment because you do or do not know English. It is a universal language and it levels the playing field.

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We can't teach these things as add-ons. It's got to be embedded, for both very practical and profoundly educational reasons. Motivation matters most.

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The video is like a giant question mark with no prescribed answers. You have to figure it out. And then you realize the skills you need involve getting better at math and writing and reading.

why Tony believes in this

problem identification is the most important skill.

In his research — from interviewing CEOs and innovators for The Global Achievement Gap to his work at Harvard's Innovation Lab — Tony found one skill that mattered more than any other: the ability to ask really good questions.

School rewards right answers. The world rewards good questions. Wordless human stories from real people, with no narration and no prescribed answers, give every learner the practice of asking. Every time. From every background. In every setting.

Tony first engaged with this work in 2014, when reweave was still called Better World Ed. His support helped shape the belief that curiosity and academic rigor are not opposites — they are the same thing, when the context is human enough.

the full conversation

on active learning, embedded empathy, and the world's most important skill.

Tony's most comprehensive argument: why empathy cannot be bolted onto a curriculum as an add-on, why wordless films function as active learning tools that connect math, literacy, and global empathy at the same time — and why the ability to ask really good questions is what every CEO says matters most, and what school never actually teaches.

Tony Wagner · the full conversation · 5:23

teachers, students, and Tony together

what it looks like when it works.

teachers, students, and Tony Wagner · 2:52

in his own words

what Tony Wagner actually said.

verbatim, from interviews he gave to reweave. no paraphrase. no summary. just what he said.

on curiosity as a muscle

"I think of curiosity as a muscle. The average five-year-old asks a hundred questions a day, but then something happens we call it school. Because you see, the longer kids are in school, the less curious they become, the fewer questions they ask. So to me, at the least, this would be a way to really continue to nurture and develop the muscles of curiosity and interest and in the end engagement."

Tony Wagner · reweave interview
on what matters most

"Academic content knowledge still matters. You still got to know stuff. Skills matter more in the 21st century. And motivation matters most. Because if you're self-motivated, you will continuously learn new skills and new content knowledge all your life, as indeed we all must in the innovation era."

Tony Wagner · reweave interview
on wordless films as active learning

"The wordless videos are not passive. You have to construct an understanding by asking questions, by reflecting and talking with your peers around a table about what you just saw and what it meant. You have to construct a deeper understanding. It's active learning. We conventionally think about videos as passive learning. Well, no, not in the case of a wordless video."

Tony Wagner · reweave interview
on empathy as curriculum, not an add-on

"We can't teach these things as add-ons. It's got to be embedded. You're creating one more compartment, one more splinter, as opposed to helping kids see the world in a more interdependent, interconnected way."

Tony Wagner · reweave interview
on problem identification

"When I interviewed CEOs for the Global Achievement Gap, they told me that problem identification was the single most important skill they sought. Even in very high-tech worlds, it was the ability to ask really good questions. School so often is about getting more right answers. The more right answers you get, the higher your GPA. It doesn't stimulate or reward asking good questions. But the world out there -- that's what the world cares about. And I think that's what wordless videos can stimulate: good question asking. And that's extraordinarily important today."

Tony Wagner · reweave interview
on leveling the playing field

"Because they are wordless, they give kids -- all kids -- access at the same time in the same way. There's no preferential treatment because you do or do not know English or any particular language. It's a universal language and so it levels the playing field."

Tony Wagner · reweave interview
on giving curiosity a context

"You're giving them a context to apply literacy and numeracy. We don't work enough on real-world applications of those skills. Always for the test, as opposed to: tell me about what you just learned about that culture, what interested you, what made you curious, what would you like to learn more about. You're embedding reasons to learn that connect young kids to other people in other worlds."

Tony Wagner · reweave interview
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questions about Tony Wagner.

his research, his ideas, and why it matters.

Who is Tony Wagner?
Tony Wagner is an education researcher and author best known for The Global Achievement Gap and Creating Innovators. He spent years interviewing CEOs, entrepreneurs, and innovators to understand what skills actually mattered in the world and found that schools were consistently failing to develop them. He has been a voice for reweave since 2014.
What did Tony Wagner say about curiosity in education?
Wagner describes curiosity as a muscle -- one that atrophies when school only rewards right answers. His exact words: "The average five-year-old asks a hundred questions a day, but then something happens we call it school. The longer kids are in school, the less curious they become, the fewer questions they ask." He argues that nurturing curiosity is the single most important thing education can do, because curious people keep learning long after any curriculum ends.
What does Tony Wagner say about motivation in learning?
Wagner frames motivation as the precondition for everything else: "Academic content knowledge still matters. Skills matter more in the 21st century. And motivation matters most. Because if you're self-motivated, you will continuously learn new skills and new content knowledge all your life." A learner who is genuinely motivated will keep developing long after any test. One who is not motivated stops the moment the assessment does.
What is the Global Achievement Gap?
The Global Achievement Gap is Tony Wagner's book arguing that schools are preparing learners for a world that no longer exists. The gap is not between high and low performers -- it is between what schools teach and what the modern world actually requires: curiosity, critical thinking, collaboration, and the ability to ask good questions. Find the book here.
What does Tony Wagner say about teaching empathy as part of the curriculum?
Wagner argues that empathy and character cannot be add-ons. His exact words: "We can't teach these things as add-ons. It's got to be embedded. You're creating one more compartment, one more splinter, as opposed to helping kids see the world in a more interdependent, interconnected way." When empathy and curiosity are scheduled into a separate period, learners learn that they are separate -- unrelated to math, science, or reading. They have to live inside the subjects themselves.
What did Tony Wagner say about problem identification?
In his interviews with CEOs and leaders across industries, Wagner found a consistent answer to the question of what skills mattered most: "Problem identification was the single most important skill they sought. Even in very high-tech worlds, it was the ability to ask really good questions." School, he argues, does the opposite -- it rewards getting the right answer, not asking a better question.
How do wordless films relate to Wagner's research?
Wordless films put Wagner's framework into practice. They present a real human situation with no narration and no prescribed answers -- requiring the viewer to observe, ask questions, and make meaning. Wagner describes this as active learning: "You have to construct an understanding by asking questions, by reflecting and talking with your peers about what you just saw." Every viewing is practice in the skills Wagner says matter most.

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